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Mirrored from Sythyry.

“I suppose, Fennel, that you are about to assert that you never saw that Rassimel boy in your life before,” proclaimed Cresset.

“Despite your instant recognition of him, by name, as soon as he arrived,” said Marjoram.

“And I suppose, Fennel, that you are about to assert that you never indulged yourself carnally with him,” proclaimed Cresset.

“Despite where you were putting your hands and hand-feet when we came in, to say nothing of what you and he were talking about,” said Marjoram.

“And I suppose, Fennel, that you are going to maintain your frequent amatory exhaustion is still due to Melna and Lovage,” proclaimed Cresset.

“Despite Melna and Lovage complaining that you exhibit the same amatory exhaustion on their nights too,” said Marjoram.

“Well? Have you nothing to say for yourself?” demanded wife and mari in unison.

Fennel, for reasons more martial than marital, decided on a counterattack. “I do indeed. Among the reasons why the discriminating Herethroy nobleman might prefer a Rassimel printer’s boy to his spouses — among the many reasons — is that he does not gang up on one. Neither does he put words in one’s mouth. His specialty is putting them on paper, and other things in his mouth, to be sure!”

“So you are casting us off in favor of your printer’s boy, are you?” — “If you cast Melna and Lovage off as well, you won’t be a Herethroy nobleman any more.” — “Nor will you enjoy the substantial allowance from us that you use to amuse yourself so diligently,” said his spouses.

Fennel saw a tactical advantage. “If I cast you off in favor of a printer’s boy, what will that say about you? Who would marry you? There are hardly surplus Herethroy men about!” Which was true enough. Herethroy women counted themselves fortunate to marry once; few save the most extraordinary ever remarried. Co-lovers, while not so common as women, were not desperately in demand either. “And the barony — the title would devolve to your younger sibling!”

Cressel lowered her antennae. “What of our hopes for children, in this circumstance?”

Fennel sensed the power of his approach. “What, indeed? If I cast you off, you shall grow old and die childless! Or, if you prefer, and if you are so clever as to arrange it, you might manage to produce a bastard — and thereby add the scorn of adultery to the scorn of divorcedness!”

Cresset and Nasturtium shuddered. “We note, from your use of the conditional tense, that you are also considering the opposite — that you not cast us off in favor of a printer’s boy.”

“This is indeed the case! My alternatives lie before me, in a splendid panoply of choices, each with their own pleasures! On these hands I continue to enjoy the life of an idle and leisuresome Herethroy nobleman. On these, I switch to the excitement and bodily excesses of an urban bohemian, rich in lovers, liquors, and illicit licenciousnesses: a short life, to be sure, but a shining one! And, as an added inducement, a life without troublesome ties and sarcastic spouses!”

“Had the appeal of the second alternative to you been made clear from the beginning, we might have chosen to be a touch less sarcastic,” said Cresset and Nasturtium to each other. “Relying on outvoting him may have been unwise.”

“Still — I am a generous man! Currently, five days a week I am obligated to one marriage, and the other four to the other. Let us rearrange matters: four days to one, four to the other, and the last night a week …” said Fennel.

Cresset interrupted, “Unacceptable! All marital theory clearly shows that the male must not be allowed to choose which triad he prefers! Any options in the schedule lead to comparisons, to jealousy, to disharmony!”

“The last night a week, I shall spend alone — or, to be more technically accurate, I shall spend away from both marriages,” said Fennel with a grin. “This avoids the theoreticial difficulties completely.”

“Unacceptable also! You are incapable of discretion in matters of transaffectionate adultery! As we have recently noticed! We reject any arrangement which leads to our public humiliation as spurned spouses, whether by means of divorce or persistent perversion!” snapped Nasturtium.

Fennel’s antennae wilted. “I shall be more discreet…”

“We have no great respect for your discretion,” said Nasturtium.

Cresset said, “I have another idea. In Vheshrame Mene there is that newly-built city Kismirth — with the casino, and some time-distorting stuff or other, I believe. In Ulmarn, I propose that you act with the strictest decorum and propriety. But, say, once a year, you shall take a vacation to some distant spot, such as Kismirth, alone. And there you shall behave, or misbehave, as befits a … I do not wish to describe you, for a well-bred woman should not use such language.”

Fennel said, “Once a year? Insufficient! I am a man of substantial appetites, when confronted by compliant rather than complainant concubines! Five times a year!”

“Twice a year, and those substantial appetites had best show themselves between-whiles upon the baronial bed!”

“Four times!”

Inevitably, they settled on three — a number which could be reduced if Fennel’s behavior was less than perfect. All three spouses felt that they had avoided a terrible social precipice. Being well-trained nobles (or better-trained would-be nobles), they took pains to deal with each other with decorum and punctilio, if not with frequency.

This would be described as a “happy marriage” in certain circles. In other circles, it would be considered distinctly lacking in at least one of those two dimensions.

Date: 2011-10-31 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delight-in.livejournal.com
I think there are advantages to not being noble if this is the kind of thing that nobles think is happy or even a marriage YUCK. It's not like any of them even LIKE one another they're just sticking with it because they're scared to appear different from what primes expect them to be.

Date: 2011-10-31 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delight-in.livejournal.com
I mean like your marriage with Arfaen may not be exactly what you want or she wants for all I know but at least you LIKE each other and want to be together instead of just sticking to it for money and prestige.

Date: 2011-10-31 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
I think it is what she wants! She asked for it, after all, and she knew completely what she was getting into. But yes, we do like each other. Though we like other people as well: in Arfaen's case, quite a number.

Date: 2011-10-31 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gavinfox.livejournal.com
Hey I have a quick question, Sythyry. By this point in time, how many people have you promoted to immortality? Or agelessness, not having to worry about old age, or whatever you prefer to call it?

Date: 2011-10-31 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
Somewhere between "none" and "several", depending on how one interprets words like "have" and "you".

Date: 2011-10-31 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gavinfox.livejournal.com
...Right. Practicing the old Zi Ri mysteriousness and aloofness, I see. I suppose I'll just interpret that as a request for privacy on this issue, then.

Date: 2011-10-31 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
Or even uncertainty about what you are asking! E.g., Phaniet -- I helped out with this and that in her immortality device, as we had agreed, but I didn't (and couldn't) have done the whole thing.

Date: 2011-10-31 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gavinfox.livejournal.com
Oh. Um... how many people (sapient nonprimes and primes alike) have you been a primary cause of becoming immortal? IE, without your help in some shape, way, or form, they would be mortal?

Date: 2011-11-01 07:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rowyn
Ooh, is Phaniet's immortality device finished now?

Date: 2011-11-01 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
How could she be Mayor if it were not? (Specifically, she'd still be my assistant.)

Date: 2011-10-31 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
In all fairness, I have known plenty of nobles who have quite happy marriages by any measure. But I have know a number who were like Fennel.

(Honestly, I may have known a number who were more like Fennel-in-this-story than the real Fennel was. I made up this scene nearly from whole cloth, based more on the number-who-were-like than on anything Fennel himself said to me. It is true to the type, at least, and facts observable from Kismirth are actually true.)

Date: 2011-11-01 01:28 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redbird
For that matter, I've heard of non-noble marriages that are equally problematic: people who don't particularly care for each other, but are afraid of being alone for various reasons (and may be afraid of the scandal of a divorce even if they thought they could remarry).

Date: 2011-10-31 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terrycloth.livejournal.com
Well, you are reading about them at their worst -- arguing and angry with each other. Maybe they actually enjoy the others' company most of the time.

Date: 2011-10-31 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delight-in.livejournal.com
I guess it's not fair of me to judge them especially since Sythyry only made up the argument anyway.

Date: 2011-11-01 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
I am at a bit of a loss as to how anyone could enjoy Fennel's company at all. At least, after one is physically satisfied.

Date: 2011-10-31 05:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kris-schnee.livejournal.com
In other words, "What happens in Kismirth, stays in Kismirth"?

Date: 2011-10-31 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
Or even "What happens in Kismirth had better stay in Kismirth, and not plop itself into your arms in the parlor!"

Date: 2011-10-31 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gavinfox.livejournal.com
Kris is making a reference to an advertising slogan of one of the many cities of 'sin' on our world, a place that encourages certain sorts of tourism (especially gambling). Does Kismirth have an official witty advertising slogan?

Date: 2011-10-31 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kris-schnee.livejournal.com
I'm now picturing someone waking up with a hangover after a party in that city, and finding themselves in Kismirth!

Date: 2011-10-31 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terrycloth.livejournal.com
"Why is there a nendrai in our bathroom!"

Date: 2011-10-31 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
A memorable slogan, to be sure!

Date: 2011-10-31 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gavinfox.livejournal.com
Oh oh! Did you ever get the water park done? Started? The one we elaborated on in so many ways all those years ago?

Date: 2011-10-31 09:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denaist.livejournal.com
Rrau, for the city of Wrongfolk:
"Kismirth: Wild. Weird. Wonderful. Wordworthy."
-or-
"Kismirth: Where one's silence speaks volumes"

Date: 2011-10-31 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tuftears.livejournal.com
Doom shall be forthcoming!

Is 'libertine' language unacceptable for a well-bred woman such as Cresset? Perhaps it simply didn't occur to her at the time.

Date: 2011-10-31 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
Perhaps she thinks it sounds archaic!

Date: 2011-10-31 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tuftears.livejournal.com
Let us have sympathy for the translator. :)

Date: 2011-10-31 09:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
Only when the translator is performing adequately, or, since that is "never", performing less subadequately than usual.

Date: 2011-10-31 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tuftears.livejournal.com
To be fair, the translator has a rough job: zie must interpret the language and mode of speech of a Worldtree denizen, possibly for a conversation at which zie was not personally present but only learned through hearsay, then render it in a form of English which both makes sense and retains the original mood which was intended to be conveyed!

Date: 2011-11-01 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ionotter.livejournal.com
Frankly, I consider that anyone who can translate Khtsoyis into monster is someone deserving of respect. (I still get a giggle out of 'snushmanger'. Hee!)

Date: 2011-11-01 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
[Bard grins!]

Date: 2011-11-01 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormydragon.livejournal.com
This is almost like A Marriage of Insects, except that they're all assholes.

Date: 2011-11-01 01:45 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
And two of them are the /same/ asshole. Probably because the lizard only met Fennel.

Date: 2011-11-01 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
True indeed! I must write about the Rounses and Noritts next.
[Viz, Bard has written the next story arc about a perfectly functional, if differently doomed, Herethroy marriage.]

Date: 2011-11-02 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormydragon.livejournal.com
I must say that being a Herethroy sounds incredibly soul-crushing.

Date: 2011-11-02 01:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
Mynthë would have agreed with you, I think, but most Herethroy seem to like it.

Date: 2011-11-05 05:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormydragon.livejournal.com
Do they like it, or are they just resigned to it?

Date: 2011-11-01 11:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uriasenomi.livejournal.com
I am doing research for my university thesis, thanks for your great points, now I am acting on a sudden impulse.

Date: 2011-11-01 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
You are filling little boxes with pickles and sand; your points are not very pointy; now you are falling off a cliff.

Date: 2011-11-01 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gavinfox.livejournal.com
Don't spells that automatically do tasks without any real intelligence, but where people try to disguise them make them seem to have intelligence, quite amusing? That's what urias is, basically. It's just SO OBVIOUS.

Date: 2011-11-02 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] relee.livejournal.com
I'm glad they came to a fair and equitable arrangement. Obviously they wanted something from Fennel all along, so he had a much more important bargaining chip.

Plus now you get to have stories about him visiting your city, isn't that nice?

Date: 2011-11-02 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
That is indeed how I came to find out about him!

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