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Mirrored from Sythyry.

At which point Arfaen acquired me, by the simple expedient of scooping me off the back of the chair whereupon I had been sitting, and plopping me on her shoulder. “My soon-to-be-former concubine!”

I kissed her happily. “My soon-to-be-former keeper!”

Arfaen: “I do believe I owe you something!”

Me: “What? Oh, right! My salary!”

Greblakaan: “Your salary? But she is your cook…”

Me: “And out of the meagre allowance I pay her as her employer, she is required to set aside a substantial sum for the care and future life of her concubine. On pain of being tossed into a prison cell with dancers, prostitutes, and other such disreputable people in Hanija, if I recall properly.” The “meagre allowance” is technically correct. Arfaen is the proprietor, manager, and president of the two largest and most unusual restaurants in Kismirth. She is not yet rich, but I imagine she will be soon. It also doesn’t let her do much cooking professionally, so she does most of the cooking for our now-small household. She gets a certain allowance out of the household monies for food.

Arfaen: “No — the penalties on keepers are a bit more harsh. Remember when they beat you and broke your wings?”

Me: “I remember, in spite of diligently trying to forget!”

Arfaen: “Then — in this envelope is your salary!”

I took the envelope, which was of fairly nice white paper, with my name written in Arfaen’s uncomplicated handwriting on the front.

Arfaen: “Open it!”

Me: “As your obedient concubine for another four hours, I can hardly disobey!” So I severed the seal with a clawtip, and unfolded a sheet of paper with various account numbers for a modest trust fund on the Bank of Teleporting Hexagons. It all looked to be in accord with the law of Hanija which we were amusing ourselves by obeying.

A scrap of white paper fluttered out from the folds of the account numbers, and away. Greblakaan grabbed it, glanced at it, and tucked his ears flat.

Greblakaan: “I think this is meant for you.”

Paper: “Sythyry — will you marry me in the style of Zi Ri?”

Me: “Of course!”

Assembled Wrongfolk: “Yay! With occasional slight reservations!”

Greblakaan and such: “What?”

(We have decided, after considerable consternation and deplorable discussion, to provide eight standard forms of marriage, viz. those appropriate to the eight prime species. (People can write nearly any sort of contract that they want, but the eight forms are the easiest.) The Zi Ri form is arguably the most distant: it provides for occasional connubial visits separated by long periods of independence. I don’t personally find it that pleasing, despite being 50%-100% of the Zi Ri population of Kismirth, but it’s all of Arfaen that I have ever gotten.)

Wrongfolk: [whispered to visitors] “It’s one of our kinds of marriage here! It doesn’t auto-divorce after seven years either!”

Everyone: “Yay!”

Me: “Now pardon me for a moment, I have a suddenly urgent errand.” I attempted to flee, but my keeper and fiancée held me firmly by the tail.

Arfaen: “I’ll have none of that! For a few more hours you are my concubine, and I have need of your services! No, not like that — as a hostess to this party!”

Me: [meekly and trying not to giggle] “Yes, keeper.”

Arfaen: “Besides, I know what is waiting for me in your dressing room. Did you think you could plot to propose to a Cani without her figuring it out?”

Me: “I probably shouldn’t have. But I couldn’t propose while I was still your concubine — that would be, oh, lese-majeste?”

Arfaen: “I’m sure! Punishable by something horrid back in Hanija. Where I plan never to go again.”

Greblakaan: “Wait … did you two just have a big party to celebrate going back to the same relationship that you have had for the last seven years?”

Me: “You understand!”

Postscript

I was actually going to propose a Sleeth-form marriage to her. It is a very tenuous form of marriage in many ways. It does, however, suggest that we might be living in the same building (or candelabra, in our case), which the Zi Ri form does not. Also she does go Sleething around a lot, so it seemed appropriate.

But since she proposed Zi Ri style to me, which is probably more dignified or something, I didn’t much want her to see it.

Date: 2011-09-22 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delight-in.livejournal.com
Awww I'm sorry the Zi Ri style doesn't suit you despite you being the one who probably made it up but I'm glad you and Arfaen are happyish together! And maybe you can live together sometimes anyway Zi Ri marriage doesn't forbid that does it?

Date: 2011-09-22 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terrycloth.livejournal.com
Oh no! Now you get to have Rock-Paper-Scissors marriage drama!

"I was going to propose a Rassimel marriage to him, but he insisted on Orren!" "What a jerk! He's not even pretending he doesn't want to sleep around."

Date: 2011-09-22 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tuftears.livejournal.com
Aw! Sythyry and Arfaen are so cute together. ^_^

Date: 2011-09-22 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chipuni.livejournal.com
Yaaaaay!

The Rassimel marriage ceremony would require a thirty-three-page minimum document, spelling out every detail of the marriage and the mechanism for modifying the details.

The Orren marriage ceremony would be "for as long as we both rememb--- ooooooh, shiny!"

Date: 2011-09-23 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terrana.livejournal.com
The Orren marriage is more likely to take the form of "transcending space, time and the life-death-reincarnation process forever and ever" on paper, but as you describe in practice. The stereotypical Orren is unaware of the changeable nature of his own enthusiasm (although I suspect most actual Orren are aware and work around it without a second thought).

...I think I got a bit distracted by stereotypes there. What was I saying again?

Date: 2011-09-23 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chipuni.livejournal.com
*balances an extra-shiny piece of amber on his nose, then bounce it to you*

Probably this!

Date: 2011-09-23 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kris-schnee.livejournal.com
Reminds me about the text (in the main book) about the prime species' literary tastes. Orren have trouble getting through reading or writing novels, but have the most widely popular short stories.

Date: 2011-09-23 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kris-schnee.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, [livejournal.com profile] chipuni! I thought of your icon when I visited the otter habitat at a zoo recently and was told about the otters being used to deliver a marriage proposal.

Date: 2011-09-24 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chipuni.livejournal.com
HEE!

That's an adorable way to deliver a wedding proposal...

Date: 2011-09-23 01:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormydragon.livejournal.com
Is Sleeth marriage proposed by leaving a dead bird on their floor?

Date: 2011-09-23 07:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kensan-oni.livejournal.com
No. It's proposed by herding a live chick back so that you can share a meal.

Date: 2011-09-23 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terrana.livejournal.com
I do rather enjoy your exclamations of "you understand!" to people who clearly don't, like Greblakaan and Delight. There may be hope for you in the department of traditional Zi Ri mysteriousness [is that even a word?] yet.

Date: 2011-09-23 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormydragon.livejournal.com
Me: “Now pardon me for a moment, I have a suddenly urgent errand.” I attempted to flee, but my keeper and fiancée held me firmly by the tail.

Arfaen: “I’ll have none of that! For a few more hours you are my concubine, and I have need of your services! No, not like that — as a hostess to this party!”

Me: [meekly and trying not to giggle] “Yes, keeper.”

This was the wrong reaction. You should have said no to her proposal and then made yours even more elaborate. Now Arfaen has affan in proposing!
Edited Date: 2011-09-23 02:45 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-09-23 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
She does, at that. Well, I daresay she'll be proposing to more people than I will over the next decade.

Date: 2011-09-23 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormydragon.livejournal.com
Yes, but if you do propose, say to Saza, now you have to let Arfaen do it for you, since she's earned the right to make all the proposals for your household.

Date: 2011-09-23 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
Wait, do you know something about Saza and Arfaen that I have been missing...?

Date: 2011-09-24 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormydragon.livejournal.com
You and Arfaen are a household. Arfaen has affan in proposing. Therefore if you wanted to go propose to Saza, Arfaen would have to go and make the proposal on your behalf.

Date: 2011-09-24 03:09 am (UTC)
rowyn: (content)
From: [personal profile] rowyn
But you'll propose to more people over the course of your lifetime! Well, unless you make her immortal.

Date: 2011-09-23 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kensan-oni.livejournal.com
I think it's too late to worry about that. Arfaen was the one who got them concutwined in the first place!

Date: 2011-09-23 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormydragon.livejournal.com
Something just occured to me...

According to the World Tree book, primes can't produce labial consonants that involve pressing the lips against the teeth. Which means a number of your current characters (Arfaen, Feralan, Grinwipey, Phaniet, and even Greblakaan) have names that can't actually be their names. Have you dropped that rule, or are we not getting their real names in the translation?

Date: 2011-09-23 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
[Pretty much everything is in translation. You are not getting real names, you're getting anglicized or at least humanized versions of the names. -bb]

Date: 2011-09-24 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormydragon.livejournal.com
[Now I want to know everyone's real names!]

Date: 2011-09-23 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terrycloth.livejournal.com
I don't see any consonants in there that involve pressing lips against teeth? Except maybe 'f' but you can pronounce it without doing that if you want.

Which ones are those supposed to be?

Date: 2011-09-24 02:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormydragon.livejournal.com
The 'f' sound is one of the sounds explicitly mentioned in the RPG book as one that world tree natives cannot produce. Others would include b, p, and v:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labial_consonant
Edited Date: 2011-09-24 02:53 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-09-24 07:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terrycloth.livejournal.com
From your own link, b and p are lips against each other. F and V are the labiodental ones, and you can do a variant that doesn't use your teeth although it sounds a little off (try speaking with clenched teeth basically).

Date: 2011-09-24 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormydragon.livejournal.com
b and p are lips against each other, but both start by pulling the lips back against your teeth. I assume the reason all these consonants are not producable by world tree natives is that if you had sharp predators teeth rather than flat incisors, making the sounds would risk injury to your lips by your own teeth, particularly during rapid speech.

And as you note, there is a bidental consonant that sounds similar to f (although it's normally considered a variation on x or h for several technical reasons), but this is generally considered pathological:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bidental_consonant

On further consideration, I suppose the reason could also be that they lack the large protuding lips we have and thus can't press them together to produce bilabials, in which case they'd be unable to make an m sound as well.
Edited Date: 2011-09-24 04:13 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-09-24 11:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterbeast.livejournal.com
Perhaps Sythyry should send a wizardly notice to Hanija, Declaring their laws absurd, and that as a ruler of his own city, is rid of them.
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