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If I help construct a city -- especially if I expect to depend somewhat on visitors and visitations -- I'd like to have some exotic and wonderful attractions.



One such attraction is a Fire Garden. There are a couple of others around, so they're not quite unique; but if there are three on the World Tree I haven't heard of the third. The other two are, in effect, statues of formal gardens constructed entirely of flame, and planted and populated with plants and animals as are suffiently fireproof. So, one might have a topiaried tree made of fire, with a living epiphyte growing on it. The first two are intended only for Zi Ri. If I make one, I will include protection spells aplenty, so that anyone can visit it and even touch the flames.



So that's one idea. My friends and advisors have listed some dozens of other ones -- but they are all very conventional people. O readers and commenters, you come up with the most remarkable concepts! What sorts of exotic attractions would you suggest for me?

Date: 2011-04-21 11:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arenhaus.livejournal.com
How about a reproduction of that particular too-spectacularly-successful anti-scrying illusion? ;)

Date: 2011-04-21 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arenhaus.livejournal.com
Think of the sensation it had created! It should certainly serve to attract more visitors!

Besides, I have a suspicion that you help found would attract not only DOOM, but also a very bawdy reputation - whether it deserves one or not. So why not capitalize on that?

Date: 2011-04-21 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gavinfox.livejournal.com
If you like the idea of a fire park, you will LOVE my universe's take on the 'water park'.

While we have water parks that have more sedate fountains and pools and such, there are water parks that are more... extreme.

Many of the ideas for water parks originated because of the constructions which were made to transport logs down mountainous terrain to a sawmill. These were basically big, mildly angled chutes along which water fell down, that you put a log in. People found that standing or sitting on the logs flowing down the chute was great (albeit dangerous) fun, so some people intentionally used this idea of 'going down a wet chute' to design safer rides as attractions.

Here are some of the attractions that a water park could have:

1.) A 'wave machine' that makes four to six foot waves in a pool, for people to bodysurf, bodyboard, or surf the waves

2.) A bunch of slides, which are basically tubes that have water flowing through them, where people slide down. The slides often have sideways loops and dips and stuff, and empty into a big pool

3.) Things that simulate whitewater rafting, but safer, and in a big loop, where you don't have to actually row or anything like that. This is for people who don't want to get *as* wet.

4.) Inner tube rides, where people lay on these inflated, donut shaped rubber tubes, and ride them in the aforementioned chutes

5.) Of course, there are attractions that are a floating ride in a boat down a spooky tunnel, with things popping out at you to startle you and such. These often end with a bit of an angled drop which is at a point where you TOTALLY won't expect it, where the boat goes down maybe a 45 degree waterfall, creating a huge splash at the end. Of course, there is an observation bridge right in the 'where you get splashed from the boat' section near the end.

6.) Some of the more sedate things that we have that attract people that are water related are hot springs spas, where people go to soak in hot water pools of various sizes and temperatures. These pools are often filled with water with minerals in it, said to have rejuvenating properties. These places often have steam rooms and dry hot rooms and such also. These places also have hot spas where you not only soak, but there are jets of water under the surface that help give you a back massage!

Anyway, I hope other people chime in with ride ideas that I forgot, as well as clarifications!

Date: 2011-04-21 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gavinfox.livejournal.com
How you monetize this is you sell day passes to the park, and you have an attached hotel where people and families can pay to stay, and you sell lots of services at the hotel too. In the actual park, you have an adorable theme mascot, and sell lots of toys and such of the mascot, and lots of things to remind folk of the park. Maybe with one of the rides with a big drop, people could buy prints that have a picture of their faces taken at the surprise drop??

Also, when people are having fun, they will pay more for fast, nourishing, delicious, albeit often bad for you, street food!

Date: 2011-04-21 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kris-schnee.livejournal.com
Think in terms of magic, too! Tunnels and globs of water hanging in midair, space and time distortions, fancy illusions, and Orren-transformation amulets would all be popular.

Date: 2011-04-21 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goodluckfox.livejournal.com
And it will attract ORRENZ THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF ORRENZ!!!!11!oneleventy

Date: 2011-04-21 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cowboy-r.livejournal.com
One must be careful in the construction of loops, and especially dips. I know of at least one water park where an adult went down a slide designed for children, and knocked himself out hitting the top as the bottom dropped out below him.

Date: 2011-04-21 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kris-schnee.livejournal.com
I second the water park idea! But also:

How about taking over the Tree's puppet-show industry? Since you can make recordings of sights and sounds, why not gather talented actors and musicians, have them perform on stage, and sell copies of the recordings world-wide? You could tightly control the copies and show them in special theaters with overpriced food and drink. You could even figure out how to record plays that're done with sets too elaborate to put in a theater, or in exotic locations, or with special magical effects added to the recordings after the fact.

The city would become a tourist attraction for producing these plays, and everyone from governments to pornographers visionary artists would want you to work for them!

Date: 2011-04-21 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arenhaus.livejournal.com
Or make an "adventurer park" recreating the environments that city folk are unlikely to visit. Could range from just sightseeing to illusory battles letting even the least adventurous of the visitors to feel like adventurers going against deadly monsters - in perfect safety.

Or how about a different take: create and maintain a network of teleport transport linking several cities, and have all of the routes go through your city as a hub. Make money from the traffic, the resulting commerce in the city, and attract businesses and guilds you can tax.

Date: 2011-04-21 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] relee.livejournal.com
He could do like Halaster with Undermountain. That would be some awesome stuff. XD

Date: 2011-04-22 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kris-schnee.livejournal.com
The trouble with the teleport idea is that it's been tried, and the gates tend to let things leak through!

Date: 2011-04-21 05:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zeeth_kyrah
Fire, water, and visions have been suggested.

How about a maze-hedge park? Some parts have bushes and low hedges, so adults can mostly look over them, some have high hedges, and it's a big maze.

Of course, very large mazes can get hard to police, but if the top of the maze is wide open, then an observer (or several) can be stationed above to watch the park.

Date: 2011-04-21 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terrycloth.livejournal.com
Have a house of mentador horrors -- where people scare themselves by being subjected to evil mind-magic (but know that none of it will persist once they leave because it's all safe and official). Have the room where you think you've been body-swapped with someone (because you remember being in their body for your whole life but OMG you're in your own now!), or the room where you switch political opinions, or a hallway where different intense emotions overwhelm you as you walk down it...

Or combine it with illusions, but with the mentador making sure the illusions seem completely real. Maybe instead of the standard 'illusionary murderer chasing you around', you could have a room where you got to be the murderer.

Oh, or of course, you could also have custom memories generated and left in place so that people could remember doing horrible, dangerous things that they'd never want to do in real life. Like go into a mentador house of horrors.

Date: 2011-04-21 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gavinfox.livejournal.com
That's a bad idea if I ever heard one! Maybe Saza could open that up, but not Sythyry...

Date: 2011-04-21 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terrycloth.livejournal.com
Sythyry is as good with mentador as with any other art, because zie cheats. n.n

Also, not necessarily responsible for building the entire city zirself.
Edited Date: 2011-04-21 07:58 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-04-21 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kibbe.livejournal.com
Zie does not cheat, zie is an adventurer, and zie has figured a nice little spell to practice all of the nouns and verbs with a single spell.

Date: 2011-04-25 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foomf.livejournal.com
Every mage worth their salt has figured out such a spell, one hopes.

Date: 2011-04-22 06:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] draconis.livejournal.com
I like this idea.. Like an emotional Total Perspective Vortex..

Date: 2011-04-21 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kibbe.livejournal.com
The fire garden is a good idea, specialy if your planing to open it to all. Thats not something most would ever have the chance to see. Perhaps do two diferent walkthroughs, one for the poorer people who can't aford the fire protection spells, and one for the people who get the fire protection spells?

For a water park, think about the things an orren would want to do, or an otter, and go with that to start with.

And as that allready gives you two of the eliments, perhaps an earth garden, find weird and fanciful rock and meneral formations, really weird shaped chunks of worldwood and amber.

AIr is also posable, after all, I am sure someone artist somewhere has experamented with constructing shapes and things out of coloured and shaped air.

Kibbe

Date: 2011-04-21 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kensan-oni.livejournal.com
You need many different things for amusement areas, as I said before.

1) You need entertainment for your age groups. Youthful, Adolescent, Adult, and Mature. These needs are different for each age group.

The Youthful need energenic and safe exploration space. Playgrounds and places where they can touch and feel things tend to be really really good for them. So, you should at least have a Petting Zoo, with beasts and stuff (And a Zoo in general tends to be a good idea as an attraction). Also, given your world, a playground that can heal minor breaks and sprains of children performing childish stunts off of high places wouldn't be out of order.

The Adolescent need seemingly life defying feats, and experiences that seem daring, even if the events themselves are not. Although what that translates to typically is different between Primes, I'd imagine, and different between genders, a popular form of entertainment in the adolescent at least in my world is falling. I *personally* don't see the thrill of it, but there are a lot of people that love to just jump off of really high things, or dangled off of high places, and then just let gravity do it's course.

I think that a tall platform where you can jump off, and get caught into a bubble machine at the bottom, and then floated back up to an exit point would just be fantastic for these kinds of things.

The Adult needs places where they can spend time with love interests in shared experiences. The Fire Garden is excellent for this kind of entertainment, and if there was music and dancing, it would be even better.

The Mature needs places where it can spend time with family. They don't necessarily care about thrills anymore. (As an aside, this is what really drives attractions like It's a Small World, and the Monorail, at Disneyland). What they do care about it having enjoyable experiences with their loved ones and family.

Outside of having Shows and Circus, and dinner theater, I'd recommend a Magically enhanced Orchastration, using elemental conjurations to provide colorful and interesting displays for the performance, switching among more classic, and more modern styles.

2) Food and shopping! I almost forgot I had a 2 and maybe a 3 but I think I killed my gumption with number 1!
...

Part of me realizes that you, Sythry, are aiming to create something more akin to Vegas then the Disney Resort. Vegas main attractions tend to be romantic spotlights, amazing shows, and gambling. Lots and lots of Gambling. However, I don't really have any experience in that. I do have a more intimate knowledge about the Resorts, though, and that really colors my suggestions. So I apologize, in that way.

Date: 2011-04-21 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] relee.livejournal.com
You could make something like this. I'm sure the Orren would be thrilled. If you could make it in the same location as your fire garden, it would make an incredible pair.

Date: 2011-04-22 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kris-schnee.livejournal.com
You fling people through a water pipe, go around a blind turn, and have them about to hit a wall of flaming spikes! And then the hidden teleport/illusion spell is revealed as they go through it.

Date: 2011-04-24 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chipuni.livejournal.com
A fire garden is a lovely idea! I took photos at one, several years ago.

But I still think that trade -- especially the idea of selling goods to would-be adventurers -- is an excellent way to build up your city.
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