Vae Q

Dec. 2nd, 2010 07:18 am
sythyry: (Vae)
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And what are students like, that we will have so many of shortly, and how shall I act well towards them?

Date: 2010-12-02 05:18 pm (UTC)
rowyn: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rowyn
They are likely to appear much in need of help. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO HELP THEM. It's a trap!

Hopefully, you won't get Student #5 or 11. Although if you do, you (a) probably will not feel inclined to help them and (b) if you do, it may be for the best.

Date: 2010-12-02 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kensan-oni.livejournal.com
Isn't student 11 the closet transaffectionate, though?

Date: 2010-12-02 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tuftears.livejournal.com
I'm not sure if Vae can avoid attempting to help them! It might be better instead to come up with a list of easily remedied minor afflictions that can be dispensed if someone happens to desire something that should not be granted, but will be anyway, out of reflex.

For example:

"I wish X could see things like Y does!" where X or Y could be the self-referential 'I', or might not.

Wrong Ways To Help:

- Transform X into Y (or vice versa)
- Make X think like Y does (or vice versa)
- Merge X into Y somehow, i.e. by combining their bodies

Less Wrong Ways To Help:

- Apply a spell so that X sees things as if he or she were in the position of Y, for a limited amount of time
- Transform a memory of X to be from Y's point of view and then ask X to review that memory
- Give X a miniaturized copy of Y to explain what it is he or she is seeing and doing in some particular situation, but one which will obey Y's feelings on privacy and thus will not share information Y does not want shared

Right Way To Help: (note that this will probably not happen but is listed for completeness)

- Nod wisely and ask the complainant to explain why Y's viewpoint is better than X's
- Ask if it is good for everyone to think alike in a worldtree with so much diversity of situations
- Mention that you were recently in a Heaven where conformity of culture was enforced lethally and ask if the complainant thinks that is really a good idea

Date: 2010-12-03 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kensan-oni.livejournal.com
Mention that you were recently in a Heaven where conformity of culture was enforced lethally and ask if the complainant thinks that is really a good idea

... I have a feeling Student 5 would say yes to that... what should Vae do then?

Date: 2010-12-03 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tuftears.livejournal.com
Transport Student 5 to the Heaven, in the form of one of the Elfirim!

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