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No Good Deed... [7 Chirreb 4261]

The Gormoror was duly retrieved.

Vae wriggled in a very disturbing way when I gave her the recording. I sometimes wriggle that way, when Ilottat has been particularly excellent. Giving things to Vae sometimes feels like intimate contact with a very wicked and very nonprime monster. I am traff through and through, but I will stick with primes!

And then she retrieved the Gormoror, and turned him outside-out, and gave back a half-dozen magic items. He wasn't particularly sane, after being inside-out for months. He wasn't particularly healthy either -- Vae couldn't heal him, so she made him look more or less like he really was. Which was wrong in many places. He could barely move, and everything hurt.

We (myself and Ptefshi and a few other guards, not Vae) took him to the Healer's Guild, and induced Hezimikkinen to pay for his healing, since Yylhauntra had paid for his harming and Zimi's as close to involved as anyone in Vheshrame.

Ilottat was predictably upset that I stood him up, rather thus:

Ilottat:"Couldn't it have waited 'til morning? You didn't give the recording to Vae until noontime!"

Me:"well, yes"

Ilottat:"Couldn't you have sent a message to me somehow?"

Me:"well, yes"

Ilottat:"I got some distinctly expensive and delectable fish to share with Pondspark, too."

Me:"thank you"

Ilottat:"It's ruined now. I was too sad to eat it alone."

Me:"im sorry"

And so on for about two-thirds of an hour. He was right, too, which made it worse. After which he allowed me to apologize more with clause 5 of our agreement. So much for that.

But I still feel awful about that rescue.

[Poll #651474]

Before this monster can answer the poll...

Date: 2006-01-13 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allessindra.livejournal.com
... I need to have some explanation of the term 'decent'. I'm not sure if I need to be asking Sythyry or zir translator...

Re: Before this monster can answer the poll...

Date: 2006-01-13 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
[Sythyry says zie was asking for guidance about proper behavior, considering both local cultural mores and trans-universal ethical fundamentals. I think zie was just asking, "Would you think worse of me if I did this?"]

Re: Before this monster can answer the poll...

Date: 2006-01-14 02:50 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] greenreaper.livejournal.com
[Well, if she's going to ask monsters what they think of decency, she might as well ask Vae . . .]

Date: 2006-01-13 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kensan-oni.livejournal.com
Umm... I must have missed that leaflet. Clause 5?

Date: 2006-01-13 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
See 16 Oix.

Date: 2006-01-13 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mattlazycat.livejournal.com
You are primarily (as it were) polling (not poling) non-primes, so I imagine the results will mostly be yes. I think Vae is nothing but friendly and charming to you, she merely isn't all that good at it. She obviously needs more practice than you can probably stand. Therefore, this near-Sleeth selflessly offers to spend some time with the saucy little nendrai, in order to lighten the heavy burden of your ambassadorship. You may thank me with cookies. ^.^

Date: 2006-01-13 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lysana.livejournal.com
What bothers me a little, O Zi Ri, is that your boyfriend gave you grief for almost an hour for being good, kind and noble to a creature in considerable distress.

Date: 2006-01-13 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
That was not my error! My error was in doing it in a way that broke our date, when I could have just as well done it in a way that did not, and rescued the Gormoror just as soon. You cannot see it, but my tail is tucked firmly between my legs.

Date: 2006-01-13 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
[Bard, btw, agrees]

Date: 2006-01-13 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cktraveler.livejournal.com
I would think anyone so expert in Locador would not need to resort to ... such measures ... to deter an attacker. An attacker who finds themselves suddenly a thousand paces from anything without actually moving is perfectly incapacitated, and can then be dumped a very, very long way away.

Date: 2006-01-13 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
I don't think she thinks that way, since, after all, every prime on the branch is her enemy and some are quite cunning and devious. I imagine she spends an hour or five every day thinking about new ways to protect herself. I doubt that it will be enough, in the end.

Date: 2006-01-13 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terrycloth.livejournal.com
I'm not sure about the fifth question... does Vae *want* them, or not? Is it that she wants them but wishes she didn't?

As long as you don't hurt or offend her by it, this sort of manipulation isn't a big deal. And I'm not sure how you could call it 'tricking'.

I wonder if she knows Yylhauntra sent him? Assuming zie actually did... I mean, if I was Vae I'd certainly have read the gormorror's mind in some fashion... but if I was Yylhauntra I wouldn't let the person I was sending know who was hiring him.

Date: 2006-01-13 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
She wants them and wishes she didn't. Rather like Ilottat, say.

Date: 2006-01-13 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tuftears.livejournal.com
So, receiving things from primes is a [i]vice[/i]?

It is probably a good one for the city in that it allows her to be influenced, but a bad one in that she could just as easily be influenced by someone nefarious, if she isn't discriminating about who she gets her gifts from.

Date: 2006-01-14 02:52 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] greenreaper.livejournal.com
Actually, I think it's more of a kink than a simple vice . . .

Date: 2006-01-13 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] esory.livejournal.com
I think you did the right thing. Unquestionably.

And I do wish Illotat would be a little more understanding.

Date: 2006-01-13 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
Well, I'm glad of that, Esory, really I am.

Ilottat hasn't been at his best lately, alas.

Date: 2006-01-13 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vernononfm.livejournal.com
I quite agree. You truly are doing adventurous things, and I am quite envious. :) My adventuring is rather limited to a vacation or two every year. But, you are also quite brave and noble. You are growing much through this ambassadorship, and I am sure your parents would be proud if they truly understood.

Date: 2006-01-14 03:23 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] redbird
Can you point out to your boyfriend, who is after all training to be a diplomat, that diplomacy sometimes has to be done at inconvenient times?

Date: 2006-01-14 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
An argument which he might have accepted if, in fact, it had to be done at that time!

Date: 2006-01-14 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] justicezero.livejournal.com
I would certainly find the task in which you were involved to kill any romantic or lustful mood which I might normally have. Illotat is, simply, being an insensitive ass and not suitable to consider as an equal or as a partner, he is abusing your good graces and demeaning you. A proper boyfriend would be understanding of such distressing events and seek to help you or relieve your distress, not be angry because of an interruption in his ability to slake his own lusts. He is abusing your good nature in a way which is most troublesome, and you do -not- need to take it. He acts in a way indicating that he thinks of you not as a person but rather, his personal toy or slave.

Some questions about the nature of instinct...

Date: 2006-01-14 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gavinfox.livejournal.com
I'm wondering if you could try to dig up some answers to some questions that have been bugging me. To me, it seems that Vae has a very strong instinct that gives her intense physical pleasure when she recieves things that are prime from primes.. and as near as I can tell, the fact that she has this instinct disturbs her and you. What I am wondering is, how possible is it for an intelligent nonprime to purposefully overcome this part of their nature? Would there be a potential psychological (mundane, non-magical influencing of the mind for better mental health) way to overcome this aspect of herself? Is there anyone you could ask about strategies for that sort of training?
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
I am given to understand that that particular instinct is very deeply entwined with the rest of her spirit. That if it were removed, a great deal of her personality would be removed with it. The part that would be left, of course, would be a very savage monster with all her murderous and wicked instincts, and none of the gentler and more considerate aspects of her personality which make it worth my while being ambassador to her rather than fleeing to a different branch.

Aren't you glad you weren't designed by Gnarn?
From: (Anonymous)
Hmmm. Is there a Prime science that you know of that encompasses the professional study and healing of the mind through non-magical means? To help people with psychoses, with unhealthy obsessions, phobias, things that have to do with mental health?
From: [identity profile] gavinfox.livejournal.com
Oops, forgot to put my name on that message...
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