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[sythyry]

After last night's deeds, there has been some debate among my friends. In Vheshrame, the Healers' Guild has one policy; in Yistreia, it has another.

Ghirbis' Position: The responsibility of the healer to her patient is supreme. She must take all plausible measures she can to save his life and cure his condition. (Illegal and immoral measures aren't plausible, etc., etc. Don't be silly.) A healer with several patients having crises should get help for all but one of them. A healer with one patient in a crisis and another not currently in a crisis should attend to the one in the crisis, and not reserve anything for the one not currently in one -- bearing in mind that few crises last longer than a day, and most resources are renewed at each dawntime.

Havune's Position: The responsibility of the healer to the community of patients is supreme. The healers should take all plausible measures she can to protect her patients collectively. A healer with several patients having crises should get help for all but one of them if she can; if she cannot, she should act to do the most good that she can with whatever resources she has. A healer with one patient in a crisis and another not currently in a crisis should help the one in a crisis, but save some cley for the other.

[Poll #520528]

Comments

[yotogi.livejournal.com]

Again, not to seem contrary, but that may not be completely possible. Medicine as we perform it relies on a complex set of biological and chemical principles that may not actually apply to the Tree. Not that I disagree with you, mind; I voted 0, there's rightness and wrongness to both arguments. Just offering that, at night, their sun goes out, so there's really no saying if physics and chemistry et cetera are going to work the same way.

[cowboy-r.livejournal.com]

They need an empirical society to find out how things work, in the absense of magic... or with magic.

[goodluckfox.livejournal.com]

I don't think the Cyarr have Healoc...

[gavinfox.livejournal.com]

Who knows what sort of practices that mirror our ways of healing the Cyarr might come with... in enough years, Prime healers may be able to learn a thing or two from them... as preposterous as it sounds. Necessity is the mother of invention, after all...

[sythyry.livejournal.com]

[ObPrejudice...]

Ridiculous. They're not prime.

[justicezero.livejournal.com]

Yes. And so, in this case, they have a specific weakness. One which they must compensate for. You recall your lessons on 'impractical uses of Destroc', do you not? If all one has is a tool not directly suited for the job, one finds interesting ways of solving the problem with the tool one -has-, and further, in doing so, must by necessity learn a great deal about the nature of the problem.

[sythyry.livejournal.com]

Typical monster attitude, that!

[Typical prime attitude, that. -bb]

[yotogi.livejournal.com]

Good luck getting the nobility to agree to that one.

[sythyry.livejournal.com]

There is no "absense of magic" here. Absense of cley, yes.

[gavinfox.livejournal.com]

I think what they mean is that your healers need to learn about the processes of the body and ways to heal without expending cley, because there ARE ways of doing very effective healing without lots of cley. However, in order to discover these ways efficiently, there needs to be some sort of structure in the culture to gain large amounts of empirical knowledge on how the body works...

[goodluckfox.livejournal.com]

True. But the physical laws are so wildly different there that it may be harder to do research. I mean, here, we can use the scientific method, and our experiments are repeatable. There, they may run the same experiment three times and get FIVE different final results. Plus most of what we know as biochemistry prolly doesn't work. We're made out of patterned quarks, muons, leptons, and assorted other hoohadery at the quantum physical level, and they're made out of raw magic at a similarly fundamental level.

It makes my brain hurt.

That said, I think it would be a hoot to see Sythyry use some of his off-Tree knowledge that we've been sharing with him. I can picture the converation now...

Sythyry: (something he could only have learned from us)
Everyone Else: Sythyry, has the nendrai driven you mad? You're not making any sense. Now stop speaking foolishness.

Loxley