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[Another special bonus issue of Sythyry.  If having the occasional bonus issue pleases you, feel encouraged to give me a tip, which, for this issue, can be done by: (1) singing to someone when you would ordinarily simply speak to them; (2) leaving a comment; (3) eating an unusually brightly-colored food item; or (4) using the name of a deity whose name you do not ordinarily use in casual conversation (e.g., saying "By Toutatis, it's good to see you today!")  Bonus points if you tell me about it, of course. -bb]
Mirrored from Sythyry.

Elfimel D: “Let us tell you about all the pretties and happies of Heaven! We will tell you anything!”

Phaniet: “Certainly. What is a ‘cycle’, that you mentioned before?P”

Elfimel D: “A cycle is once around!”

Este: “Around what?”

Elfimel E: “Around all of Heaven!”

Este: “How big is Heaven?”

Elfimel F: “Nine chambers of the cycle, and a few others that we go to sometimes or othertimes.”

Elfimel G: “Each chamber is more beautiful than the last one!”

Elfimel A: “we are always glad to go on. If we stayed too long in one chamber, it would become boring. What if all we had to eat was fruit? What if all we had to love was one other Elfimel? This is the essence of Heaven: that it is always new and always fresh, no matter how long we have been here!”

Phaniet: “I see. How long have you been here?”

Elfimel B: “One hundred eighty-six thousand, two hundred eighty-two cycles!”

Este: “You counted?”

Elfimel B: “I always count! Some other Elfimel always count too. We check each others’ work, and we always get it right! There are no mistakes in Heaven!”

Elfimel A, C, D, and E: [singing] “Oh, we make no mistakes in Heaven / We never do it wrong in Heaven / Errors are forbidden in Heaven / It is Heaven of the Mind!”

Este: “Were you anywhere else before Heaven?”

Phaniet: “Still worried about being turned into one?”

Elfimel C: “No! We were created as Elfimel; we were never anything else!”

Phaniet: “I see … I hear you, that time in Heaven is measured in cycles, but can you give us an estimate of how long a cycle is in some other terms?”

Elfimel H: “One of the other travellers said that a cycle was anywhere between a few hours and a couple weeks. It depends on how fast we go! We’re never in a hurry though. We’re never going to end!”

Me: “So how old does that make Heaven? Older than the World Tree?”

Feralan: “I can do the math! Let’s see … about as old as you at the youngest, Sythyry, and maybe twenty times as old as the World Tree at the oldest.”

Me: “So, either older, or younger, or maybe the same age.”

hCevian: “Oh, rejoice! It is more complicated than what you say, since time is not everywhere the same!”

Me: “So, either older, younger, the same age, or the question is meaningless.”

hCevian: “Delight! You understand the answer with perfect exactitude!”

Kantele: “Even Sythyry makes no mistakes in Heaven!”

Nobody: [singing] “Oh, we make no mistakes in Heaven / We never do it wrong in Heaven / Errors are forbidden in Heaven / It is Heaven of the Mind!”

Phaniet: “I guess time doesn’t matter too much to you.”

Elfimel B: “Hours and days don’t. We don’t have those icky things in Heaven. Cycles matter to us! We count them carefully!”

Grinwipey: “So, you’ll just keep going ’round and ’round, then?”

Elfimel B: “Yes — oh, yes! We will revolve and revolve in purest happiness!”

Grinwipey: “Counting the cycles all the way?”

Elfimel B: “That is my especial joy!”

Grinwipey: “So what happens when the numbers get too virsmegging big? Like, when it takes longer than a whole cycle to even say the number you’re on now? What’ll you do then, elfie-chit?”

Elfimel B’s ears went flat, and she shivered in a terrible fear. Six other Elfimel ran to cluster around her and comfort her, and distract her. I would call it an orgy, but, unlike any orgy I have ever been in (or, more often, that I have observed from the mantlepieces and corners, and slithered off from pretty quickly), there didn’t seem to be any particular lust involved. A lot of affection, I think, but no actual urgency or kinkiness. As if body-play were simply an ordinary way to distract Elfimel B from an unpleasant thought.

Phaniet: “Has anyone been here longer than you?”

Elfimel G: “Nope! All of us Elfimel were created at the same time, and we’ve all been here all the time! It’s wonderful and perfect!”

Grinwipey: “So how many you Elfie-Welfies are there? Forty-eight, I’ll bet, or I’m a squid in a puddle.”

Elfimel G: “Eight hundred and ninety-six!”

Grinwipey: “Dammit, where’s my puddle?”

Phaniet: “Where are all of you?”

Elfimel H: “Here and there in Large Fruit. Perhaps a few have gone on to Thick Flowers. None lag behind in Showers. We are careful not to get so spread apart!”

I guess we’re in Thick Flowers.



Date: 2010-09-05 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gavinfox.livejournal.com
That is... weird...

Body play as an ordinary way to distract someone from an unpleasant thought?

Looks like your traditional... well, I'm not sure WHICH of these it is yet, but I'll let TVTropes explain the main categories that seem possible to me:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CrapsaccharineWorld

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/UncannyVillage

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SugarBowl

Date: 2010-09-05 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
[My immediate reading list for Heaven included several Oz books, The Lotus Caves, The Machine Stops, a few Star Trek episodes, and (after it was mostly done) Brave New World. This story arc is firmly with the utopian/dystopian literary tradition in mind. I didn't say 'I'm going to do this trope', but I'm not trying to defy tropes either. -bb]

Date: 2010-09-05 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gavinfox.livejournal.com
Based on those three listings, some decent examples of those tropes include This Perfect Day, Brave New World, The Time Machine, The Giver, the various Oz books, Uglies, Watership Down, and Running out of Time.

Date: 2010-09-05 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
[Oh, right, add the Time Machine to my list too.]

Date: 2010-09-05 02:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gavinfox.livejournal.com
All the ones I mentioned were books. Are you going to check out any of the ones you haven't yet read?

Date: 2010-09-05 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
[No plans to, 'cept Oz books which I frequently nibble at this year. If Rhys picks some of them us, I'll probably read them too. I'm done with this story arc, by the way, except for the revisions I do as I post things. Unless more material shows up, which it often does. I've already got 7000 words of the following arc, even! -bb]

Date: 2010-09-05 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gavinfox.livejournal.com
Oh wow, that's quite a bit! =D Can't wait to read the rest of it!

Date: 2010-09-05 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dracosphynx.livejournal.com
Now there must be considerable curiousness at what the other rooms are named and what they are like!

Date: 2010-09-05 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chipuni.livejournal.com
I think that body play is an EXCELLENT way to distract someone from an unpleasant thought...

...at least, I have a difficult time remembering unpleasant thoughts when Eli is doing wonderful things to my body...

Date: 2010-09-05 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chipuni.livejournal.com
...remembering that almost everyone who visits eventually tries to kill all the Elfimel...

Date: 2010-09-05 04:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
Can you really blame them?

Date: 2010-09-05 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kensan-oni.livejournal.com
Well, except for the pointy and stabby room. We can skip that.

Date: 2010-09-05 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terrycloth.livejournal.com
But -- but -- it has *LASERS*. Probably.

Date: 2010-09-05 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kensan-oni.livejournal.com
Stop being brainwashed by robots! :)

Date: 2010-09-05 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kensan-oni.livejournal.com
Just as a general aside, Feralan seems to still have a lot of mathy bits in him...

Date: 2010-09-05 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] perlandria.livejournal.com
By Vectron!
Please tell me you've seen that skit?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icTrzUuWlHI

Date: 2010-09-05 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormydragon.livejournal.com
Elfimel A, C, D, and E: [singing] “Oh, we make no mistakes in Heaven / We never do it wrong in Heaven / Errors are forbidden in Heaven / It is Heaven of the Mind!”

Oh, oh! I know where you are now! You're in Alpha Complex!

Date: 2010-09-05 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gavinfox.livejournal.com
Well, yes, I guess that does make sense!

Date: 2010-09-05 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gavinfox.livejournal.com
Uhh, who is "Nobody"?

Yay!

Date: 2010-09-05 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ysabetwordsmith.livejournal.com
By Grabthar's Hammer, I am enjoying this exploration of a bizarre yet fascinating heaven.

Date: 2010-09-05 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
In appreciation of bonus Sythyry, I eat blackberry-cabernet sorbet, which is deeply purple!

I also quote "So, either older, younger, the same age, or the question is meaningless.", for the pleasure of seeing it again.

Date: 2010-09-05 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yotogi.livejournal.com
Nonsense. Orgies are for Communists, citizen.

Date: 2010-09-05 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] relee.livejournal.com
By Vectron's Shiny Kneecap! I've never see that particular skit before!

Date: 2010-09-05 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] relee.livejournal.com
The absense of someone.

Date: 2010-09-05 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] relee.livejournal.com
I hope we get to see all the chambers of M.C. Heaven.

Date: 2010-09-05 10:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rowyn
But it's the Lights *and* daggers phase, not the lights-as-daggers phase.

... assuming that did refer to a place and not to something else.

Date: 2010-09-05 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] delight-in.livejournal.com
I bet if Pararenenzu had made a Heaven it'd be a lot better and more interesting this one is kind of I dunno creeeeeeeeeepy. Making all the people interchangeable makes them seem kind of dull too.

Date: 2010-09-05 11:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
[That's wonderful![]

Date: 2010-09-05 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
[Actually, I think we don't.]

Date: 2010-09-05 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
He does. I hope this is not a problem.

Date: 2010-09-05 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
Nobody sang that, though it would have been apropos if someone had sung.

Date: 2010-09-06 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
If Pararenenzu had made a heaven, I don't think I'd dare visit.

...

Then again, I didn't exactly dare visit this one either.

Date: 2010-09-06 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
Yay! Thank you for telling me of this deeply purple food!

Date: 2010-09-06 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] relee.livejournal.com
Alas. I suppose this is the closest the Strayway will ever get to one of my bizzare cutesy dimensions. XD

Date: 2010-09-06 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
I certainly hope so!

[I dunno! They might go dimension-hopping some more sometime or other]

Date: 2010-09-06 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] relee.livejournal.com
[Well you're certainly welcome to borrow any of my bizzare cutesy dimensions, or any of my dimensions for that matter. I have a lot of dimensions. Just, be careful if you go to DIMENSION X]

Date: 2010-09-06 02:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tuftears.livejournal.com
[Actually they remind me of Smurfs. All they need to do now is start calling it 'elfy' when something goes well.]

Date: 2010-09-06 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
[I have never actually seen a Smurfs show]

Date: 2010-09-06 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tuftears.livejournal.com
[You are not missing any great work of media/literature! It's more like a mental 'earworm'.]

Date: 2010-09-06 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
[I figured.]

Date: 2010-09-06 03:07 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] zeeth_kyrah
Ah, ye small blue cave lizard, the Doom is within you now... I wonder what Inconnu has been doing the past two-thirds of an hour?

Date: 2010-09-06 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gavinfox.livejournal.com
You should encourage him to do math and be interested in math, cause, you know, he's probably a math savant now! I noticed that hCevian was able to do certain types of math that appeared to be out of the realm of Prime knowledge, maybe Feralan can one day further the understanding of math for prime civilization because of this gift? If he can figure out how to explain that sort of thing to primes, and do proofs and such?

Also, I'm sure Feralan would probably like to talk math with us monsters sometime?

Date: 2010-09-06 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stormydragon.livejournal.com
Or who he's been doing? ;>

Date: 2010-09-06 06:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gavinfox.livejournal.com
Welll yaa obviousllyyy...

Date: 2010-09-06 06:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gavinfox.livejournal.com
Ahhh stupid me...

Date: 2010-09-06 07:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sythyry.livejournal.com
I haven't been tracking him that closely. Unwise, I know, but I have only so many scrying medallions.

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